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Old 11-28-2014, 03:10 PM   #1
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Law enforcement authorities believed that at least two witnesses in the investigation of Michael Brown's shooting lied about having seen his death.

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Old 11-28-2014, 05:06 PM   #2
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Eyewitness accounts are historically the least accurate of all. People see things not with their eyes, but with their minds and all the garbage their own lives bring to it. It's a very well known fact and something secret service agents spend a long time learning to overcome.

This is why cameras are such an advantage. Not that they'll catch the right angle in every situation but they don't think, they just do.
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What is clear is Mike Brown did not fear the officer until his gun fired in the cruiser. Both were suffering hearing loss from the shot. Mike Brown tried to run away, could not hear the command to stop but likely felt a bullet clip him or wiz by. He then raised his hands and turned, knowing he could not run from a bullet. Witnesses say he put down his arms and charged, instead of getting to his knees. The officer still deaf saw Mike charging him and likely yelled get to the ground, and Mike had to see his mouth moving along with the raised gun. When it was clear he was charging the gun, the deaf, wounded officer emptied the gun at him.
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Nowhere in the reports does it indicate the officer stated he was deafened. Pictures of the officer taken right after show no injuries. I'm not sure where your version comes from?
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Nowhere in the reports does it indicate the officer stated he was deafened. Pictures of the officer taken right after show no injuries. I'm not sure where your version comes from?
Take a 9mm pistol and discharge it within 2 feet of your ear. Time how long it compromises your hearing.
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Take a 9mm pistol and discharge it within 2 feet of your ear. Time how long it compromises your hearing.
I'm not questioning the effect, I'm questioning the lack of any mention of it. Or of the one "bruise" on the officers right cheek/jaw that appears identical in November leading most to believe it's a birthmark to begin with.

Then there's the guy who did the first autopsy.

I think there's just too many questions all around that can't be satisfactorily answered.
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Having shot my spouses 9mm and my .357 magnum without ear plugs it can last a while. the sound is from 140 to 190 db per shot. They were fired right next to their ears.

Here is a quote on a guy who fired in his house;
" ive fired a 9mm indoors, in about a room space without ear plugs or anything. ended up with "acoustic trama" didn't hear anything for a little bit then loud ringing for about 2 days, and slight ringing for another day, and sensitive ears for about 4-5 days. i figure either way, 9mm or 40SW, they'll both be pretty bad seeing as how its a gunshot going off. even 22lr hurts without ear plugs, just try it'
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As I said I don't question the sound it makes. I question why this huge effect wasn't mentioned as part of his defense/justification.
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Because how long or how bad either suffered deafness is ..... Ta Da Conjecture and not based on fact that can be proven. One could have had the others ears covered in a bear hug. One could have been wearing ear plugs, we can ramble off into all sorts of conjecture with it. He was advised by his council to keep it short, basic and to the point rather than open up all kinds of debatable points.

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Yes and your entire theory is just that - conjecture.
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